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WR Blitzes for Tamir and Talal

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In this video I demonstrate new world record blitzes for Tamir and Talal, as well as a super consistent way of escaping without hiding after the Tamir assassination. Actually, all of the stuff in the video is really consistent. I shave off almost half a second from the current WR on Tamir (1.03s versus 0.6s) and almost two seconds on Talal (24.00s versus 22.3s). I'll talk a bit about the setups and methods I use below.

Tamir
After dropping down into the courtyard, I move away from the pool just a little bit to trigger the cutscene start. Then I quickly position Altaïr for the assassination. If you wait too long, there will be civilians in the way, so you have to be fast.

After the scene you need a bit of luck; Tamir can walk several different directions, and if he goes for anything else than across the pool, you automatically lose a second or so. If he does go for the pool, it's pretty much a superfast blitz.

I honestly believe this is the fastest any setup is ever going to get unless we find a way to get in the huddle.

I timed this blitz from the white flash to the first frame of the kill animation, which amounts to 0.6 seconds.

The way escaping without hiding works is by putting enough distance between Altaïr and the pursuers. 50 metres to be exact. I accomplish this in the video by climbing up onto the souk, where the guards can't follow Altaïr, which gets me enough distance to escape by the time I reach the roof garden. Sometimes it's a bit later, but it works pretty much every time.

Talal
Honestly, Aurel pretty much found this, but his blitz setup didn't have the lamp jump so it's a lot slower than mine. I'll talk about the lamp jump a bit first because it's actually very easy (90% consistency easily) if you know what you're doing.

Obviously, your stick is going to have to be somewhere in the southeast region, but just blindly pointing your stick isn't going to work. There are two things you want to avoid while trying for the lamp jump: jumping straight back, and jumping straight to the side. The way you do this is by looking at the camera angle and compensate for that. Sometimes it will be centered behind Altaïr, so you point the stick a little more to the east side. Other times it will be kind of to the side like you see in the video, so in that case you point it a bit more to the south side.

The rest of the blitz is fairly straightforward. Worth noting is that I jump to the wooden bit of the roof after exiting the building rather than jumping diagonally, more towards Talal. This costs a tiny bit of time, but this way it's more consistent whereas the diagonal jump tends to fail the air to assassinate; this attempt was the first try where I didn't make any stupid mistakes like forgetting to press Armed hand to assassinate.

Another thing that's worth to note is that the kill animation actually starts before the camera angle changes. This is from a reload, so I timed this blitz from the first frame of movement (which is Altaïr turning) to the frame right before the camera angle change (as Altaïr starts his jump), which amounts to 22.3 seconds.

I am positive that a sub-22s blitz on Tamir is possible, with the diagonal jump and going from the actual scene. It's way more trouble than it's worth though, so I am not going to try for it.

Hope you enjoyed the vid, and maybe someone finds the motivation to try for a sub-22!

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That Talal blitz looked hair-raising to perform.
I can't wait until we release a compilation video of all Blitzes one after the other.
Boss Rush Mode. We have it.

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That Talal blitz looked hair-raising to perform.
I can't wait until we release a compilation video of all Blitzes one after the other.
Boss Rush Mode. We have it.

Well in planning an Assassin's Creed speedrun I've managed to find investigation routes without cutscenes for three targets, so that's basically boss rush mode. Tongue

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I like how none of the two blitzes are really exploits.

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Finally someone had the decency to break one of Ian's world records along with one of mine!

I discovered the "lamp jump" on Talal but never took the time to master it, certainly not with 90% consistency. Its main advantage is that Altaïr pulls himself up onto the candelabra during Talal's "keep him away from me" cutscene. If anyone gets at all consistent with this blitz, the way to get sub 22 is to play from the story cutscene (not a reload). Move toward the ladder during the cutscene and you can practically walk to the base of it before the white flash.

One more piece of trivia: I initially joined AC-maps to ask about a running assassination of Talal on the roof, essentially as shown in this video. I thought I had seen it done on YouTube but, after failing to reproduce it, I couldn't find the video again. Eventually I found the video and it was just a running assassination of some archer in Jerusalem who looked like Talal. Back then nobody was doing spectacular assassinations of main targets.

Killing me softly with his knife

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stabguy wrote:
Finally someone had the decency to break one of Ian's world records along with one of mine!

I discovered the "lamp jump" on Talal but never took the time to master it, certainly not with 90% consistency. Its main advantage is that Altaïr pulls himself up onto the candelabra during Talal's "keep him away from me" cutscene. If anyone gets at all consistent with this blitz, the way to get sub 22 is to play from the story cutscene (not a reload). Move toward the ladder during the cutscene and you can practically walk to the base of it before the white flash.

The lamp jump saves more time than that because it's also the flat-out shortest route to Talal, and saves you from having to do a wallrun.
By my count you can shave of about half a second (maybe a bit more) by doing the inconsistent diagonal jump, and then almost a second with the walking to the ladder. So maybe, just maybe sub-21 is possible. However, I don't recall the flash being that late, and actually thought starting from a reload was advantageous. Might just be because I saw the white flash from getting exposed.
IMO the way to get sub-22 is to do the diagonal jump from a reload because that is way less frustrating than having to reset and listen to Malik and Talal blabber on endlessly everytime you screw up a jump, or Altaïr gets stuck at the ladder.

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^This. I'm not going to ask how many times you tried for the Talal blitz, because I tried too many times to count. I made mistakes when either jumping to the candelabra, running to the ladder leading to the roof, or (especially) jumping from the roof to the scaffold to the other roof. Angry Tired
And the times when I managed to do all that right, Talal got enough of a headstart that the air to assassinate failed! *brofist of respect*

As of now most of the targets in AC1 can be killed in less than a second. Dougie's lightning

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